N'maro Makari
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Posted - 2011.09.04 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nicoletta Mithra
Originally by: Rek Jaiga
Well, you're seemingly operating on the assumption that if one uses his brain, one is necessarily against slavery. Thing is, this assumption is flawed.
There aren't only theological reasons for slavery: There are as well ethical, legal, social and other reasons. Then, logic can't give you reasons. Logic is merely a tool to test arguments for their validity.
Also, ethics and logics aren't in principle free of errors as well.
So, Cpt. Jaiga, truth is, it doesn't follow from using your brain that one will necessarily support freedom and abolition of slavery, especially as one doesn't equal the other. It's really an old move to paint everyone who doesn't agree as being 'those that don't use their brains' - it's not gotten any more valid with time, though.
Cpt. Sadik: I think you should be made aware that, generally, slavery is economically less favorable if you embrace a 'free economy' as the Gallenteans and the Matari do: Free economy is free of minimum wages, for a reason and the Republic is no stranger to 'cheap labor'.
So, economically speaking there are strong reasons for the abolition of slavery. Luckily, material wealth isn't what drives the Empire, though.
One more thing: Why did the Elder fleet use Insorum on Mekhios, for example? Well, certainly not to free their brethren that were afflicted by Vitoxin: As much as I regret that this move was taken, the slaves that were addicted to Vitoc had been all in all executed when the Elder's troops arrived. Why then still use the Insorum? Well, simply because it is a quite formidable weapon as well: It kills those not afflicted by Vitoxin. So, while I luckily had not to kill my slaves, as I never made use of the Vitoc method for the ethical reasons, I had to get them into safety from the Insorum bombardment, which allegedly was meant to 'free' them... I better don't say more about that.
Faithfully, N. Mithra
Ugh, please, another holier than thou "Vitoc too good for me" Holder. As much as you dont want to believe it, Vitoc is still method no.1 for slave control. Of the hundreds of thousands of Holders on Mehkios, there is likely little over a few hundred who wont use Vitoc. Even fewer who think it is unethical.
But the fact that you seem to think that the Elder fleet was somehow the bloodthirsty party of murderes perplexes me. After all, as you said, was it not the cowards of Mehkios who lynched their slaves in fear of an uprising?
I mean you display remarkably little grasp of the situation as it was, even with all the evidence available before you. The ivasion of the Empire way over the course of a day. The first issue with your insinuations is how the hell a message is supposed to reach the Elder Fleet command all the way from Mehkios on the other side of the front line? Second, when they got to Mehkios, were they supposed to just abbandon the people who were left alive? Is that how the Amarr do things? I mean did you honestly expect the Elder fleet to just sit over Mehkios and ponder the situation first? For all the advances in scanning technology, no ship can just casually scan a planet for sudden population changes. In almost all instances, the Elder forces' actions were excusively directed towards military targets and slave holding installations. Your also forgetting the amount of Insorum needed to kill someone vs the amount needed to cure Vitoc. Granted, any exposure is not healthy, but there was nowhere near enough Insorum to poison a whole planet.
I do regret that deaths were inflicted, but anyone who says they dont kill for a worthy reason is a damn liar. Especially if they're a capsuleer.
The reason was Liberation. Liberation from those many thousands who deign to use Vitoc in the first place, and of course all the other indignities and cruelties the Matari have suffered under the boot of Amarr
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